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Diana Chen
The interview report to Liu Huannong
Today, we come to one village at the foot of Mount Zhu to interview a veteran
cadre Liu Huannong. He used to be the Ministry of Police Station. Mr. Liu still
send out remaining energy after retiring, participates in the contribution
of the Hope Project actively, help to run the primary school in the village.
On the way, the guide was saying to us constantly: "This is the primary
school which Mr. Liu mobilizes the veteran cadre to contributes money in. It’s
the best house in the village. ""This is a family of a student who
continue his education by Mr. Liu’s subsidy. " A short while later,
we reached Mr. Liu's home. We got off the car and entered. The one that heave
in sight is the scene of the Chinese countryside courtyard: the red tiles and
white wall, planting several kinds of vegetables in the courtyard, several
kinds of wild flowers, give somebody the feelings of safe and being indifferent
to fame or gain. Entering the room, we really got a surprise——Chinese
painting and calligraphy works are fully stuck on the wall*It is joyful to
find out that the life of the Lius is very happy and pleased. After everybody
had sat down, interviewing begins. Mr. Liu did and self-introduction to us
first . Mr. Liu: My name is Liu Huannong, which means calling peasants to make
revolution. I am 83 years old, the same age as Chinese Communist Party. In
these 83 years, I experienced the flames of war. We can say, my childhood is
the period living in hunger and cold , My youth is the period full of the flames
of war, my middle age is the period full of full of frustrations, and now,
the days in my old age, is comfortable. In this period, however, we can't forget
the past. Lenin has said, forgetting means betraying . Q: Can you talk about
your general idea of the Opium War first? Mr. Liu: Told from the past story,
the ancient civilized country, China, begin to be invaded by the capitalist
country Britain 160 years ago. The first step of foray is to preach, wearing
the coat of the religion to plot other things. The second step is to engage
in trade, exporting the opium into China. The third step, is the war. 300 years
ago, the Britain has build the capitalism, and intend to invade other countries.
But Qing government is so corrupt at that time. After the Opium War broke out,
Lin Zexu has did very well in Guangzhou, but Qing government send him away.
After that, the government began to negotiate. In 1842, the government signed
, giving Hong Kong to Britain. From then on, China was forced to signed more
than 1100 unequal treaties! What I realized most deeply, is that dropping behind
means getting beaten. The western countries is capitalism already and China’s
still feudalism, it’s simple that China’s going to be invaded.
So now , we must develop the productivity and make the country stronger and
stronger! Q: You mentioned Lin Zexu just now, then what little story can you
tell us about him? Mr. Liu: After Lin Zexu was degraded, he came to Xi'an.
At that time Xi’an is going to build a forest of Steles, so the people
in Xi’an let Lin Zexu inscribe the name of the forest in a stele. Lin
Zexu has removed left-falling stroke of " tablet " word. He says,
the left-falling stroke is like a knife, the knife is for killing, so we must
take this knife away. At that time, the knife for killing, referred to the
Qing Government. It is obvious that at that time, Lin Zexu had already realized
that if you want to save China, you must ** the Qing Government! Put down Yet
there is a piece of wisdom of Lin Zexu's. At that time, Lin Zexu's son was
a small officer in the capital.In the letter given to his son,Lin Zexu said:
You can not do the job of officer, but you must do a real human. That is to
say, you must has a clear conscience. Now, Communist Party has appeard , and
the Chinese people have stand up, so the tragedies like the Opium War will
never appear again. Mao Zedong has let Chinese people stand up, Deng Xiaoping
has made Chinese people rich, Jiang Zemin has got China stronger. China has
stands up, and the future of China is hopeful. I am full of confidence in the
future of China! (Talking about this, the old man laughed happily) Q: China
has got prosperous now, but we can't forget the past. Can you tell us what
the Opium War has affected your family? (Hearing this question, Mrs. Liu can't
help inserting several sentences) Mrs. Liu: I remembered that when I lived
in my grandmother’s, one household of my neighbour’s smoke opium.
The more he smoked, the poorer he was. The poorer, the less he could afford
to smoke. As he had become addicted to the opium, he couldn’t stop. If
he stop smoking, he would be not able to stop dropping tears and snivel. This
man is thin and looks yellow, just like a stick. Finally, he died in this way!
The Britain’s purpose is to poison Chinese people. To sell opium is a
matter that can kill two birds with one stone: making money and getting Chinese
to lose their fighting capacity. Robbing bullion and silver by the treaty makes
China, the agriculture country, become poorer and poorer. The poorer, the easier
it is to invade. So one after another, the western countries come over to invade
China, forcing China to sign the unequal treated unconditionally. I lost tears
when I saw the materials! (Tears appeared in Mrs. Liu‘s eyes and her
voice begins to be hoarse) We can do nothing! China hadn’t his own industries
at that time. If there’s no Communism Party and Chairman Mao, otherwise
China will really become colony! Mr. Liu: Come back to the opium. I remembered
that until my teens, the teacher in the village was still smoking the opium.
Smoking opium is still very much general at that time. In those years, if you
need to ask the teacher to do something, you must give him opium to eat and
wine to drink first. I couldn’t bear it in my childhood so I decided
to study. I needn’t ask him to do anything afterwards! The opium had
**give a harmthe Chinese people very cruelly. So we can't forget the past.
The saying "the asia patient****“ is related to the opium. Before
and after the Opium War, the opium has really poisoned Chinese people. …… Q:
The opium caused so great injury to people so that certainly evoked popular
indignation at that time! Then when the Opium War broke out, did the Chinese
people support? Mr. Liu: Of course! An important reason for which Lin Zexu
can keep out foreign country for such a long time is that Guangdong People
supports him very much. So, the ** support the Opium War (1840-1842) very much,
but Qing Government is too corrupt and incompetent. They only want to surrender
wholeheartedly. Q: Qing Government didn’t resistance, but Chinese people
had resisted initiatively. The famous example is Sanyuanli War against Britain.
Thus, the ****’s strength is very great. But why didn’t the fights
succeed? Mr. Liu: The people lacked the political party to lead at that time.
Without leader of political party, only **** cannot succeed. If there was a
political party that could really lead Chinese people's war at that time, perhaps
the history of China will be rewritten. Q: What’s your view on the ?
has cede Hong Kong to Britain, but Hong Kong has already **return now. what’s
your feeling? Mr. Liu: Our civilization of 5,000 years were developing well
in the past; While reaching the Qing Dynasty, the government was corrupt and
incompetent, closes the country to international intercourse, so Great Britain
soldiers take the chance to invade China. Where the soldiers came, where was
robbed. Apart from plundering the money and valuables, they even cede territory
to be the king. It is a large humiliation for China to cede Hong Kong to Britain!
Since 1842 to 7 years ago, Hong Kong had been away from homeland for 100 years!
Hong Kong’s **proves that China is stronger! So we must develop the productivity
and make the country stronger and stronger! Q: As we all know, From the Opium
War on, China turns from prosperity to declines. It is the ***of China's history.
However, If the Opium War didn’t happen, the Qing Government will go
on closing the country to international intercourse and will not develop capitalism,
China cannot know the world either. Perhaps China will fall behind the world
for more years. What views do you have to the Opium War? Mr. Liu: If the Opium
War didn’t happen, the other countries will come, too. This is an law
of historical development. Besides, the Chinese people are oppressed and exploited
for a long time, they will finally resist the government, like Sun Zhongshan
etc. As to the time, the U.S.A., set up the capitalist country only more than
200 years ago; Japan had just became strong during the War *; So it’s
hard to say the effect on time. In a word, since the corruption of the Qing
Government has already revealed out, it will be overthrown sooner or later.
The Opium War is the existence of history, is the great turning point of China.
We must remember the history firmly. Q: The Opium War is far from us, but its
influence still exists so far. However, people now just treat it with the kind
of attitude towards remote historical story, but not the bloody fact beside
ourselves. The Opium War just exists as a kind of knowledge now, few people
really feel bitter to this. In the face of people’s thinner and thinner
historical idea, what realistic meanings do you think the Opium War has now?
Mr. Liu: The Opium War is far from us now, but it still has great education
meaning to us. Lagging behind means to be attacked, is the deepest historical
lesson that we draw from it. In addition, though the Opium War had passed for
many years, but up to now, its influence still exists. The Hong Kong issue
comes from the Opium War. Now, Hong Kong has been back, but the Britain still
wants to make it their colony again. On the other hand, Britain provokes the
Opium War to exports the opium to China in a large amount, making the Chinese
**greatly. Now the severe situation of banning drugs in China is also partially
caused of the Opium War. Of course, the banning drugs work of China has been
already more and more perfect, we believe, this kind of situation will not
exist for a long time. In a word, as the beginning of China's modern history,
the Opium War not only has great historic significance, but also is influencing
nowadays world. We must remember this history firmly, and not forget national
humiliation! The interview is over, but we are still immersed in the emotion
of reviewing historical vicissitudes. After a long time, we stood up, reluctantly
left this pleasant farmer’s garden. …… If you fall behind
others, you will be beaten
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