| |
Interview place: in the interviewed man home
Typed place: in the interviewer?s home
Opium War Interview Translation
1, Q: We all know, the Opium War (1840-1842) endangered China greatly. China
had the status of excess exports in regards to Britain?s trade before the Opium
War (1840-1842). So do you know which two products were the most popular?
A: They were silk and porcelain .
2, Q: Then what kind of change took place after the Opium War (1840-1842)?
A: It was an excess of exports originally, and it was an excess of imports
afterwards.
3, Q: All these had a great influence on Chinese trade and this influence was
altered by the introduction of opium. So do you have an opinion on the opium?
A: The opium itself hurt no one. Opium can be used as medicine and cure disease.
But after it was brought to China, Chinese officer and some ordinary people
took opium, which would bring disaster to China later. Certainly, in term of
the country, after the opium is imported, it had a very great influence on
the Chinese economy. In terms of Sino-British trade, there was a change.
China was originally in a position with an excess of exports and opium was
a danger because it changed this to an excess of imports. Politically, the
government officials took opium, and squeezed the flesh and blood of the people
to buy the opium in a large amounts, because the opium is very expensive. This
corruption had an influence on the pure, bright politics. Another impact of
opium, after the army took opium, the fighting capacity is weakened. This is
how politics and economy were encroached upon. To put it succinctly, the opium
imports to China greatly endangered the Chinese nation.
4, Q: There have been many suggestions about why the Qing government closed
the country to international intercourse. What reasons do you think caused
the closing?
A: Closing the country to international intercourse did not begin within one
period of China?s history or within the Qing dynasty. It began in the <<bright>> or
Song dynasties. Begin since bright or Song, close the country to international
intercourse. Later on, when there were outside invaders in the region following
the coastline the country was closed to international intercourse in order
to resist foreign invasion. Another reason was in order to safeguard the dignity
of the country, they did not associate with the other countries. Closing the
country to international intercourse has played some positive function in resisting
invasion but generally speaking, closing the country simply prevents knowledge
of the outside situation. It causes China to have backward ideas, backward
management. China also can not draw lessons from some more advanced, outside
methods. In addition, China was in the declining period of the feudal society
at that time. Feudalism had already entered its moribund period, when compared
with the advanced capitalist system of countries like Great Britain, France,
etc. it had no vitality.
5, Q: Some say that an important cause of the Opium War was the closing of
the country to international intercourse. Do you think that if the country
had not been closed to international intercourse that the war would not have
broke out?
A: The war would have broken out. If the country had not been closed to
international intercourse, the Opium War (1840-1842) would have occurred just
the same. When the Qing government closed the country, it was just a sign of
the declining government. Qing Government had such moribund governance and
produced a backward system that was in decline; it was inevitable that the
system would lag behind. During the Qing dynasty, the feudal society was declining.
In world development, capitalist countries such as Great Britain and France
,etc. are in a period of rising. With their capitalism developing so quickly,
they needed a large number of industrial raw materials and primitive capital
accumulation and markets in which to sell their goods. So those countries soon
needed to expand their markets, and to seize raw materials. China had abundant
resources and little strength to resist an alien enemy, so it became the target
of capitalist countries, which colonize and then rob. So the Opium War was
not the result of closing the country to international intercourse, and it
was not Lin Zexu destruction of the opium stores or even the result of the
opium trade. It was the result of the weak feudalistic system of the Qing Government.
6, Q: You mentioned Lin Zexu just now, and his " burning of opium stocks
in Humen beach ". Some say this was a heroic undertaking of great significant
and has reflect the great spirit of the Chinese nation, but others say the
burning of the opium stocks caused the Opium War. What do you think of Lin
Zexu?
A: Lin Zexu is a great Chinese national hero. Why do I say so? Because at the
time of foreign invasion, he advocated resisting invasion . His most outstanding
act was banning opium smoking and the opium trade. Later on, when the army
of Great Britain reached Guangdong and invades, he trained the seaman, resisted
doggedly, and so provided a basis for such an appraisal. Later, Lin Zexu submitted
a written statement to a mere emperor again, demanding a ban on opium-smoking
and the opium trade, demanding he resist the enemies. All said, the emperor
removed him from office, later investigated Lin Zexu and demoted him to the
area of Xinjiang. This corruption of explaining a mere emperor. So generally
speaking, his actions reflect Lin Zexu's heroic spirit .
7, Q: To mere Huang Ti of one, no one has different views on him. How do you
see Emperor Dao Guang?
A: A mere emperor, on the whole is a fatuous and incompetent emperor. Certainly,
he is a victim of feudal society too. The general representatives, general
spokesmen of the landlord class told him that he is big. In a situation that
strands the worried outside and inside, while he was in power, the Opium War
(1840-1842) took place, he, in order to safeguard feudalism-- and in order
to safeguard the dignity of the Chinese nation to a certain extent also- resisted
some. But finally, when he saw that there is not enough strength to resist,
he adopted a method of compromise and surrender. So, for the failure of the
Opium War (1840-1842), a mere emperor has certain <<bounden>> responsibility.
8, Q: At the time of the Opium War, some of the advanced capitalist countries
went on the road to colonialism. What views do you have on colonialism?
Colonialism, it is a result of history at first. As capitalism develops, it
has this result at a certain stage. It is a disaster brought to the world.
But for colonialist power. Through colonialism, the capitalist economy of those
countries developed quickly, so the overall national strength was improved,
because they had seized the money and raw materials from the colony. And for
the country with colonies, it is a positive function for these countries to
utilize the cheap labor of the colonized countries and regions. But half a
colonial country says to the colony, a kind of disaster. Where colonialism
goes, it is inevitable that the bones of the dead will be there, that there
will be genocide policies, that it will make the local economy develop deformities.
Just like India, where one can only plant one crop, <can plant while being
other,> This is a deformity in development. Totally according to the demands
of colonialism are the demands of capitalist development.
9, Q: Colonialism has positive effect in a capitalist country, but a negative
effect on a colony. Then what influence was there in China?
A: I can talk about the influence of the Opium War (1840-1842) on China. Because
of the Opium War (1840-1842), Britain carried on colonial rule. Politically,
destroyed territorial sovereignty. Economically, the self-sufficient feudal
economy that combined agriculture with cottage industry was destroyed. And
then from the social contradiction, it was originally a contradiction of the
feudal ruler and peasant class, now became a contradiction between Chinese
nation and outside invader. The nature of the Chinese society changed too,
was originally a feudal society and was changed into semi-colonial and semi-feudal
society.
10, Q: After the Opium War (1840-1842), China signed a series of unequal treaties.
As to this, what do you think?
A: After the Opium War (1840-1842), China crossed and signed a series of
unequal treaties such as the " Treaty of Nanjing", etc.. To talk
about their inequality, it depends on the influence of China. In relation to
sovereignty, territorial integrity first was affected, they had cut the Hong
Kong Island, from an independent country, and have turned the country into
a colonized slave. Economically speaking, it has also caused great destruction.
The Chinese tariff autonomies have all caused great danger.
11, Q: Besides " treaty of Nanjing ", were there some other unequal
treaties?
A: Between China and the United States there was the "Wangxia treaty?,
China and French " Huangpu treaty ", this enclosure, Treaty of Nanjing.
12, Q: Did these have any different, concrete influence?
A: They certainly have. These two treaties have expanded the invasion rights
and interests in China at the time, there is one for Britain, expanded to France
and the U.S.A. These two treaties have introduced the church and religion,
in this way they can -in the name of preaching- invade, that is, come to China
to carry on political, economic, and military affairs. Having expanded advantage
to
trade in China, the open city extended to the upper and middle reaches of the
Changjiang River.
13, Q: At that time, China was forced to sign the treaties but if they had
not signed the unequal treaties, would that have caused a new war all over
again? Then do you think that it was a good idea to sign the unequal treaty?
A: I do not think it was a good idea. It is a little better to not sign the
unequal treaty. Struggle, so that the unyielding one stands up to the foreign
invader. Perhaps, if it was not easy to invade China, they would see that this
colony is not easy to capture, then they would think to give up, because there
were a lot of places that could have been invaded at that time. So if all the
people of China had united at that time, if the Qing Government?s politics
had remained pure and bright, the military fighting capacity would be strong
enough to resist foreign invasion, then China?s modern history could very well
be rewritten.
14, Q: How did the changes that took place during the Opium War change China?s
policy?
A: At the beginning, when the Opium War (1840-1842) had just taken place, the
Qing Government fought, resisted invasion, and that turned into a compromise
policy, which then turned into a policy of surrender, because they had signed
a treaty. This turned into China and foreign countries joining together after
and then <<reaching>> amalgamating. Resistance, to compromise,
to surrender, then finally reached unison. <<is it unite to reach finally.>> The
Qing Government had slipped to imperialism and gone on one side step by step,
becomes a tool
which imperialism used to rule, oppress, and enslave the Chinese people.
15, Q: After first the Opium War (1840-1842), the Second Opium War (1856-1860)
broke out. What relationship do you think there is between these two wars?
A: I think, the Second Opium War (1856-1860) is continuation and enlargement
of the first Opium War (1840-1842). It is a continuation, because the introduction
of the opium brought disaster to China. Revise the treaty, They will revise
the treaty after first the Opium War (1840-1842). After this kind of demand
is refused, the allied forces of Great Britain and France wanted to expand
the rights and interests of invading further, and thus launched the second
Opium War to fight for this. Enlargement, mainly because it expanded the rights
and interests of the invading powers from the coastal area to the inland. Cede
territory, to say, cut out the Hong Kong Island originally, afterwards-- especially
tsarist Russia signs a series of unequal treaties-- occupies more than 1,500,000
sq. km. of territories in the Northeast and Northwest of China. They made Chinese
politics, economy, military affairs, influenced China, and further strengthened
China's semi-colonial and semi-feudal society. The second Opium War was a continuation
and enlargement of the first Opium War.
16, Q: We now know that the environment was also endangered because of the
war. What influence do you think the Opium Wars had on the ecology of China?
A: After the Opium War (1840-1842), some changes also occurred in the ecology
of China. It is the ecological idea of saying people come first. The ecological
idea was said and not set up at that time. For example, Lin Zexu banned opium-smoking
and the opium trade, destroyed the opium with quick lime, and it flowede into
the ocean along the tidewater. Then after the Opium War (1840-1842), China
was in a relatively backward , confused state. The disaster that war brings
naturally involved ecological change also. Blocks of royal
gardens, which had been burnt by the allied forces of Great Britain and France
like Yuanmingyuan, were committed to the flames. The beauty spots were all
destroyed.
17, Q: What kind of infringement did the Opium War (1840-1842) have on the
psychology of the people?
A: The people were in a kind of state of semi-colonial and semi-feudal society.
They were more remote, felt they were in a complete dark, confidence was insufficient
in the ruling of feudalism, they literally hated colonial rule, What they should
even give vent to, was destroying the psychology. Since the war caused changes
to the people's psychology, their lives could not be normal like they were
originally, production order, it was impossible to protect some living beings.
People's life cannot all be protected, let alone a bird?
18, Q: The Opium War (1840-1842) was the beginning of China?s move towards
semi-colonial and semi-feudal society. The country later moved towards semi-colonial
and semi-feudal society step by step. Now, it has been 55 years since the founding
of the People?s Republic of China. In regards to these changes what are your
deepest feelings?
A: My greatest thoughts and feelings are " no Communist Party , no new
China ". Chinese people of different thoughts and feelings can stand up,
but the international status of China is constantly improving. You can find
this out from this Olympic Games too. The Chinese people's industry and bravery
have made them very good at inventing and creating ever since ancient times,
Chinese people of now are under the leadership of several generations. Leaders
with central authorities, who pioneer and keep forging ahead constantly, who
grow with each passing hour, to build the motherland. We became the third country
to
master manned space-flight technology independently in the world. In 2003,
Yang Liwei becomes the first person in the space of China. That is to say,
the People's Republic of China built up over these 55 years , under the leadership
of the Communist Party of China, politically, independence and the initiative;
Economically, the development with rapid change, military science and technology
is current in the world too, arranged before occupying the world too. The position
in the United Nations, no matter where the Chinese go, we are proud of our
nation.
Click here to go to Cheng Yan Di's Biography
|
|